dpp
07-21 08:24 AM
Frankly speaking, i am not a sufferer from BEC, but i want to know more about this mess.
Does the FIFO means, they process the applications in FIFO order, Does it mean that they approve also in the FIFO order? I think both processing and approving are different. Whoever got the case with less complications, will first get the approval and whose case got more complications, takes more time. Is it correct? I may be wrong. I think thats the reason why 2004 PDs may come out BEC fast sometimes as they put the case strongly and clearly.
Don't shout at me, i may be wrong.
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let’s get IV’s attention and support in this area. Let’s talk to AILA. Let’s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let’s write to media personnel. Let’s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
Does the FIFO means, they process the applications in FIFO order, Does it mean that they approve also in the FIFO order? I think both processing and approving are different. Whoever got the case with less complications, will first get the approval and whose case got more complications, takes more time. Is it correct? I may be wrong. I think thats the reason why 2004 PDs may come out BEC fast sometimes as they put the case strongly and clearly.
Don't shout at me, i may be wrong.
Risker,
I am very glad that you brought this point. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than suing the DOL. We may not sue DOL on their inability to clear the backlogs, but we can definitely sue them in their utter and deliberate disregard to FIFO procedures (mind that some people with priority dates in 2004, 2005 have already got their labor certifications, but some with priority dates in 2001, 2002 are still stuck). When I read on the DOL web site that they have tried to maintain FIFO, it makes me feel like puking.
Some folks have pointed that the lawsuit is not worth, as it has little chance of winning. To me personally, more than winning or loosing, it is a matter of bringing injustice to the light, as Gandhi has said something in this line: First step against injustice is to make it visible. This law suit will bring public scrutiny to the misdeeds of the DOL.
Even if all the backlogs get cleared by September 2007, severe damage has been already dealt to our lives. Though I am close to getting my labor clearance (I filed RRI few weeks back), I am strongly in favor of continuing with the law suit even after getting the labor clearance.
Let’s get IV’s attention and support in this area. Let’s talk to AILA. Let’s write letters to senators and house representatives (congresswoman Lofgren may be good person to start with). Let’s write to media personnel. Let’s do whatever needs to be done to expose this insult and injury to the immigrants who waited in the line for years and followed rules of the game.
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chanduv23
09-20 12:10 PM
they were not formed at the last moment in most cases
what makes you think people participate in those? from personal experience
in the MN chapter, it's hard to even get replies to e mails, forget meetings etc. of late though i'm glad to say the MN chapter has really beugun to pick up again.
ask the tri state guys how much effort they put locally- meetings- fliers- phone calls, all by a handful of volunteers. so all this is good in theory and yes it takes time. but the apathy (even hostility) that was encountered was frightening. ask chanduv23 someday what the tri state guys went through...
Yes, it was a major let down. We were hated, cursed, some members lost morale - but everyone who worked hard - did work very hard. We kept changing strategies based on situations trying to see if people will come - we did every little bit we could.
I am still trying to revive the chapter - some new members are active like laborchic and dressking and offcourse our Tri State volunteer team has always be trustworthy.
Once again - I know a lot of people do have genuine reasons and you must communicate.
what makes you think people participate in those? from personal experience
in the MN chapter, it's hard to even get replies to e mails, forget meetings etc. of late though i'm glad to say the MN chapter has really beugun to pick up again.
ask the tri state guys how much effort they put locally- meetings- fliers- phone calls, all by a handful of volunteers. so all this is good in theory and yes it takes time. but the apathy (even hostility) that was encountered was frightening. ask chanduv23 someday what the tri state guys went through...
Yes, it was a major let down. We were hated, cursed, some members lost morale - but everyone who worked hard - did work very hard. We kept changing strategies based on situations trying to see if people will come - we did every little bit we could.
I am still trying to revive the chapter - some new members are active like laborchic and dressking and offcourse our Tri State volunteer team has always be trustworthy.
Once again - I know a lot of people do have genuine reasons and you must communicate.
harsh
03-17 10:41 AM
I also do not understand why H4 are not eligible for work permit. I think when they passed H1b, they did not lobby for H4's to have work permit as they probably did when they introduced L1/L2 and E1/E2 visas. The onus is on us H1b holders to ask for H4's to have work permit. So I hope IV adds this to their list of goals if it is not already one. Lot of people understand that current H1b limit is not enough so this could be a good option if they are reluctant to increase the H1b cap.
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aquarianf
07-27 12:22 PM
Hey, thanks for the support. Please talk to anyone who know has been affected personally. Please spread the word. I with few other people will talk to a lawyer soon on this to get things initiated.
But we will need enough support to gather a critical mass and start things rolling in the right track.
So can we have a online form where everyone affected can sign in? How do we do that?
Did you talk to IV core about this issue? What is there position on this issue? Have they raised this issued when they lobby/meet conngressman/congresswomwn/senators regarding other agendas. If not may be you can your help to raise this issue when they meet with lawmakers.
But we will need enough support to gather a critical mass and start things rolling in the right track.
So can we have a online form where everyone affected can sign in? How do we do that?
Did you talk to IV core about this issue? What is there position on this issue? Have they raised this issued when they lobby/meet conngressman/congresswomwn/senators regarding other agendas. If not may be you can your help to raise this issue when they meet with lawmakers.
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alien2006
06-30 11:00 AM
Seems like this is just a Republican backed bill. Dems will fight this or insist that some provisions for illegals be included as well. Also once elections are over it is possible that the Dems will be majority and then this bill gets kicked to the side.
xbohdpukc
03-18 01:32 PM
I think I-485 filing clause is needed. Please note that the USCIS is not staffed enough. So there is a high possibility that the priority date retrogression will continue even if all the current provisions included in the Frist bill is passed. They will retain the retrogression in order to control the number of applications. In such a scenario, it is important for us to try and introduce the I-485 clause, so that people could get their EAD while they wait for USCIS to clear the mess. My 2 cents.
I don't believe you are right. Cut-off dates are not established based on the USCIS workload and its staffing, but rather on the predicted balance between demand for and supply of GCs. Therefore if worst comes to worst we will see a backlog at the USCIS level again, ie their processing time will go way beyond today's 6 months. BUt if the DOS believes that they have enough GC available to meet the demand in each and every particular quarter they will adjust cut-off dates accordingly.
I don't believe you are right. Cut-off dates are not established based on the USCIS workload and its staffing, but rather on the predicted balance between demand for and supply of GCs. Therefore if worst comes to worst we will see a backlog at the USCIS level again, ie their processing time will go way beyond today's 6 months. BUt if the DOS believes that they have enough GC available to meet the demand in each and every particular quarter they will adjust cut-off dates accordingly.
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nat23
06-26 12:02 PM
Looks like "Yes" are more.....dont know the exact count
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nrakkati
03-24 10:47 PM
I think OP posted on Murthy fourm too. This is reply from a user at that forum.
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=1321092881&r=5131043881#5131043881
If COS means -'change of status', mine is not change of status.
It is H1 to H1 (I believe that means it is not change of status) .
Thank you
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=1321092881&r=5131043881#5131043881
If COS means -'change of status', mine is not change of status.
It is H1 to H1 (I believe that means it is not change of status) .
Thank you
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karthiknv143
07-06 07:12 PM
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smuggymba
03-27 10:23 AM
Joker from "The Dark Knight" said the same thing. Leave this pattern of thinking. United we stand and divided we fall. I am not talking ONLY to you here.....
Are you high from last night. That's exactly what I said - donate and be united. I don't have time to argue - I'm outta here.
Are you high from last night. That's exactly what I said - donate and be united. I don't have time to argue - I'm outta here.
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ash0210
11-08 03:48 PM
To make aware people around you that we Legals retaining US jobs in US itself and how we are contributing to US economy will work big way to us...
I work as a free lance s/w consultant & when ever I say I am on EAD for last 4 years, they usually ask how come I dont have GC for so long!! Thats the time I make them aware, how legals are law binding, tax paying community etc..etc...and that "DO" works..and they say that "Ya, this Congress/Goverment is working on "Illegals" but not on Law abiding Legals..!!!
Can we work on those lines.? To spread a word & make community aware that "Legals" are sufferes in the process of this political debate of "Illegals"?
I work as a free lance s/w consultant & when ever I say I am on EAD for last 4 years, they usually ask how come I dont have GC for so long!! Thats the time I make them aware, how legals are law binding, tax paying community etc..etc...and that "DO" works..and they say that "Ya, this Congress/Goverment is working on "Illegals" but not on Law abiding Legals..!!!
Can we work on those lines.? To spread a word & make community aware that "Legals" are sufferes in the process of this political debate of "Illegals"?
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BornConfused
07-03 09:41 AM
When exactly did you submit your application? I just called a few minutes ago to ask about mine (which was submitted early May) and the guy said I should not be affected by this as I should already be well into "the process by now" meaning I should have already been assigned a visa. He spoke very very slow...so I don't know if he was 100% sure of what he was saying:confused:
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intheyan
06-26 03:04 PM
Thanks Sheela.
I got a relief. So since I ma on EAD and on I-485 status is it ok to take a break for 3 months and then start the next job. So this break will not affect my status right.
I got a relief. So since I ma on EAD and on I-485 status is it ok to take a break for 3 months and then start the next job. So this break will not affect my status right.
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Passes
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35 Nos
The Bill Goes Fwd
Recess till 2.15 PM
64 Ayes
35 Nos
The Bill Goes Fwd
Recess till 2.15 PM
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nixstor
07-05 11:39 AM
I guess they(morons, per your definition) are all techincally correct based on past memo's explaining USCIS stand on postmark dates,last working day in a month rule, the time at which the application was received(the revised bulletin was not yet published) etc etc
no matter what, the decision of accepting the applications is at USCIS's discretion.They can reject applications received in the last week of June as well if they want to.Period.
Calling USCIS is not going to help any single beneficiary. I guess this has been already answered by Oh. As long as we do not get away from concentrating too much on "Whats happening with my application?" we are going to sulk.
no matter what, the decision of accepting the applications is at USCIS's discretion.They can reject applications received in the last week of June as well if they want to.Period.
Calling USCIS is not going to help any single beneficiary. I guess this has been already answered by Oh. As long as we do not get away from concentrating too much on "Whats happening with my application?" we are going to sulk.
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go_guy123
02-12 02:55 PM
Note: Read my post IV need to set up a fax:This is a WIN/WIN situation for us (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=47943&postcount=38)
Thanks go_guy123. Your reply is twisted and not in context for the task on hand. I only quoted American Academy of Nursing, as rimzhim said (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=47949&postcount=40), such need to set up fax as above, 'will show us in poor light.
Sorry you missed the whole point and is side tracking the need of today: stop the grab of unused visas. Pure and simple.
Yes I do agree. We need to stop this unfair visa grab by schedule A
Thanks go_guy123. Your reply is twisted and not in context for the task on hand. I only quoted American Academy of Nursing, as rimzhim said (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=47949&postcount=40), such need to set up fax as above, 'will show us in poor light.
Sorry you missed the whole point and is side tracking the need of today: stop the grab of unused visas. Pure and simple.
Yes I do agree. We need to stop this unfair visa grab by schedule A
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desi3933
03-20 10:13 PM
Dude, I have to tell you the same, do not give misleading information. you need to have a full time position for H1B. there is a minimum number of hours per week that you specify on your Labor condition. 2 part time doesn't cut it. As I have mentioned before, you may have multiple sponsors but one of the sponsors should be primary and you work full time with him or the minimum number of hours per week as per LC. other one could be part time. But there needs to be 2 separate independent I-129's filed by both employers for you to do this.
>> you need to have a full time position for H1B.
Incorrect. H-1B can be filed for part time position. Refer form I-129.
>> you may have multiple sponsors but one of the sponsors should be primary and you work full time with him
Incorrect again. There is no requirement to work full time with one of the Employers. Hours are determined by job offer and hence mentioned in LCA. But hours could be 12 hours for both Employer A as well as B.
Again, there is no requirement that one of the job must be full time.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
>> you need to have a full time position for H1B.
Incorrect. H-1B can be filed for part time position. Refer form I-129.
>> you may have multiple sponsors but one of the sponsors should be primary and you work full time with him
Incorrect again. There is no requirement to work full time with one of the Employers. Hours are determined by job offer and hence mentioned in LCA. But hours could be 12 hours for both Employer A as well as B.
Again, there is no requirement that one of the job must be full time.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
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Pineapple
04-25 11:33 PM
Just contributed $ 200. Receipt ID: 00M756271K0810455
Frankly, with a priority date of May 2003, India, EB 3, I've given up on my own green card. I've contributed over $ 1000 so far to IV, excluding the $ 200 contribution I just made. (Making my cont. over $ 1200 so far)
At this point, if Anyone at all, ROW or whatever, gets Any benefit, its money well spent. I don't care anymore whether I get the GC or not... I'm getting older by the day, and the whole thing is looking more and more stupid... even surreal to me. The whole thing is piece of crock now, a Kafkaesque joke.
Frankly, with a priority date of May 2003, India, EB 3, I've given up on my own green card. I've contributed over $ 1000 so far to IV, excluding the $ 200 contribution I just made. (Making my cont. over $ 1200 so far)
At this point, if Anyone at all, ROW or whatever, gets Any benefit, its money well spent. I don't care anymore whether I get the GC or not... I'm getting older by the day, and the whole thing is looking more and more stupid... even surreal to me. The whole thing is piece of crock now, a Kafkaesque joke.
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NolaIndian32
04-28 10:18 AM
Thanks for your support M306m and Surabhi!!!
Go IV
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kshitijnt
04-25 08:35 PM
Contributed $100. Intent to contribute more in July.
Total contribution so far: $500
Receipt ID: 4YY34503LS540804N
Total contribution so far: $500
Receipt ID: 4YY34503LS540804N
deepakd
07-06 10:18 AM
I had FREE company attorney but decided to file 485 etc. myself & it was so much better. You can easily do 140-485 etc yourself. Call me & I will tell you.
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
Thanks Dude for your good words.
Well, I opened this thread just to have a knowledge about this which may not be useful now or in the near future; but you never know
I am working for a telecom giant and they use larrabee as their lawyer .
I, atleat, have very very bad experience with larrabee in combination with my
company's immigration department.
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
Thanks Dude for your good words.
Well, I opened this thread just to have a knowledge about this which may not be useful now or in the near future; but you never know
I am working for a telecom giant and they use larrabee as their lawyer .
I, atleat, have very very bad experience with larrabee in combination with my
company's immigration department.
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